Season 3 Episode 9

Permission to Grow with Shelley & Mary

In this soul-stirring (and slightly sassy) episode, Shelley and Mary pull back the curtain on the exhausting cycle of always trying to prove yourself. Especially when you're a woman, a person of color, or anyone who's ever felt underestimated. Spoiler alert: the glow-up comes when you stop proving and start becoming.

Shelley opens up about her empty-nester era — equal parts freedom and "what now?" —while Mary shares her journey of unlearning the grind and owning her truth. From handling anxiety to managing expectations, these two don't shy away from the hard stuff.

There's laughter. There's vulnerability. There's talk of sequined dresses and backup dancing (yes, really). Most of all, it's a reminder that you don't need permission to grow, say no, or take up space in your full magic.